How would you feel if we started using Vimeo or Youtube for our video outputs?
We've been discussing this functionality for quite some time, and it came up again as we're getting ready to redo the animation page. How would guys feel if we set up a Renderfarm.fi channel on Vimeo or Youtube in order to automatically upload the created animations to that channel?
Our gallery is anyway made public, so this might just be a nice way of unloading stress from our service, get the videos running for everybody (no more problems with Firefox) and it might just mean more views to everybody's animations.
Ideally, you would have the bandwidth to host it yourself, but saving disk space and bandwidth is always tempting (and you could have full HD streaming). Is there some prime directive that the project should be self contained?
I guess I'd vote for Vimeo. Youtube annoys me witth their captcha and copyright policies. Anyone can complain and your video is offline.
Are there any copyright concerns? Would the user/owner somehow have control over the vimeo version. Like restricting/removing something with a specific output license. What about a commercial render they may not want public? You could control the display of the embed code, but would it still be available on renderfarm.fi's vimeo channel?
Could you add functionality for post processed files that the user can upload via renderfarm's vimeo channel, or cut/paste from their own channel? What is the history behind post processed files? It used to be a feature at burp(?), but I don't see it anymore.
I also think we should always hold the files on the server (as done so far). I also like the idea of doing both, but we have to check out how much work it is to make this automatic (I doubt it will be that hard) and whether there are any limitations on the amount of videos you can send to one or the other. As to the restrictions on copyright I don't think there should be any as all outputted video needs to be licensed with Creative Commons anyway. We would just attach the license information along with the programmatic post after encoding is finished.
To which amount a user should be able to control whether their video is posted on Youtube/Vimeo is a very delicate topic. Personally I think that as we're all about openness and as the animation is anyway published to users, it's a contradiction to let users take down their own videos from the gallery. Still, as I've mentioned before I know some people who are quite touchy about the subject of their non-post-processed images going online.
Anyway, another cool thing about the Vimeo/Youtube approach is that we could probably use their systems in letting users attach any post-processed videos they want to (as "video responses"), and maybe even download these responses back to the corresponding animation's Renderfarm.fi page through the API's.
PS. For those who've missed it before, we're already automatically tweeting on every successful render finished by the community. Just check #RenderfarmFi :).
I would fave youtube, cause it runs flawless with the linux flashplugin. On Vimeo I often experience problems like not being able to switch to fullscreen, player doesnt load at all or highres videos stutter. Youtube is widely compatible I guess. Just my personal opinion :)
Id go the other way, Vimeo is for me as Youtubes quality sucks big time. I get no stutters or any problems with Vimeo. Maybe you could do both ?
Just to chip in, Vimeo (linux flashplugin) runs quite well here, however severe stutters with any youtube video(whenever the world will drop flash!!!)





i agree with this idea, as long as the origials are kept in backup storage on a renderfarm.fi server in case that the files on vimeo/youtube are removed/deleted for who knows what resons.
also is probably best for the vidoes to be sent both on vimeo and youtube, better distribution, disponibility and so on.